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	<title>Comments on: My Lamentable Drawing Venture</title>
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	<description>notes from a New York artist&#039;s model</description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://artmodel.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/my-lamentable-drawing-venture/#comment-1534</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you do don&#039;t give up, i have been trying to figure draw for ages and i&#039;m still rubbish though i&#039;m less rubbish than i used to be, give it time it will come, i think a lot of us expect to get at least reasonable results when we first try and it can  be really down heartening when we look at our drawings and think pffffttt. You should never feel ashamed of your drawings everyone has to start somewhere and getting feedback about them can be really helpfull. Treat your next drawing session as fun, expect nothing in the way of results and you will find you are more relaxed and draw better, don&#039;t know if i could cope listening to music on an ipod as i draw but i guess thats different strokes for different folks.

good luck and do keep on trying, after all it&#039;s more about the enjoyment you get from drawing than  what someone gets from viewing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you do don&#8217;t give up, i have been trying to figure draw for ages and i&#8217;m still rubbish though i&#8217;m less rubbish than i used to be, give it time it will come, i think a lot of us expect to get at least reasonable results when we first try and it can  be really down heartening when we look at our drawings and think pffffttt. You should never feel ashamed of your drawings everyone has to start somewhere and getting feedback about them can be really helpfull. Treat your next drawing session as fun, expect nothing in the way of results and you will find you are more relaxed and draw better, don&#8217;t know if i could cope listening to music on an ipod as i draw but i guess thats different strokes for different folks.</p>
<p>good luck and do keep on trying, after all it&#8217;s more about the enjoyment you get from drawing than  what someone gets from viewing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would you pick up a violin for the first time and think you&#039;d sound like Heifitz ?

The charcoal and paper is no less difficult an instrument.

Practice practice practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you pick up a violin for the first time and think you&#8217;d sound like Heifitz ?</p>
<p>The charcoal and paper is no less difficult an instrument.</p>
<p>Practice practice practice.</p>
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		<title>By: artmodel</title>
		<link>http://artmodel.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/my-lamentable-drawing-venture/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>artmodel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historianlover,

I&#039;m so glad you said that! It sure does take two people to make a drawing. Right on, my friend!

In fact, I do recognize that my role is integral. Every model should. If they don&#039;t, then they are not &quot;invested&quot; in the process, and because of that attitude, they miss out on a great feeling of reward and appreciation.

Thanks for your comment!

Claudia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historianlover,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad you said that! It sure does take two people to make a drawing. Right on, my friend!</p>
<p>In fact, I do recognize that my role is integral. Every model should. If they don&#8217;t, then they are not &#8220;invested&#8221; in the process, and because of that attitude, they miss out on a great feeling of reward and appreciation.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
<p>Claudia</p>
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		<title>By: historianlover</title>
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		<dc:creator>historianlover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant draw for shit either, and I dont think I would have the patience to sit and pose while some one else draws me. So i give you so much credit  for that. You know it takes two people to make a drawing like that, so to be a part of the process is just as integral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant draw for shit either, and I dont think I would have the patience to sit and pose while some one else draws me. So i give you so much credit  for that. You know it takes two people to make a drawing like that, so to be a part of the process is just as integral.</p>
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		<title>By: artmodel</title>
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		<dc:creator>artmodel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your great comments! Figure drawing sure is hard - harder than I even thought. But you are right that&#039;s it&#039;s all about practice, practice, practice. It&#039;s an ongoing process that demands a lot of concentration (not my strong suit).

I have artist friends who are well-established, have successful careers, have studied everywhere under prominent instructors, and most of them STILL attend figure drawing groups whenever they have the time. Or they make time. Like you said, it&#039;s the kind of thing you just have to keep doing, constantly. An artist/instructor once said to me that, regardless of training, schooling, and credentials, when it comes to drawing the figure &quot;everyone is a student&quot;.

If I create a figure drawing that is not utterly embarassing, I may very well post it here on the blog. In fact, I&#039;d be very happy to share it with everyone. But I certainly won&#039;t hold my breath!

Thanks for your supportive words. Always nice to hear from you.

Claudia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>Thanks for your great comments! Figure drawing sure is hard &#8211; harder than I even thought. But you are right that&#8217;s it&#8217;s all about practice, practice, practice. It&#8217;s an ongoing process that demands a lot of concentration (not my strong suit).</p>
<p>I have artist friends who are well-established, have successful careers, have studied everywhere under prominent instructors, and most of them STILL attend figure drawing groups whenever they have the time. Or they make time. Like you said, it&#8217;s the kind of thing you just have to keep doing, constantly. An artist/instructor once said to me that, regardless of training, schooling, and credentials, when it comes to drawing the figure &#8220;everyone is a student&#8221;.</p>
<p>If I create a figure drawing that is not utterly embarassing, I may very well post it here on the blog. In fact, I&#8217;d be very happy to share it with everyone. But I certainly won&#8217;t hold my breath!</p>
<p>Thanks for your supportive words. Always nice to hear from you.</p>
<p>Claudia</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, hell, it&#039;s the process that counts. I can&#039;t draw fer crap either, but it&#039;s fun, and there&#039;s only one way to get better. It&#039;s not magic, people aren&#039;t born with it. It can be learned, but you have to keep doing it. I do it mostly to learn to sculpt better, but I&#039;d honesly like to be able to draw well someday.

I think you should post some of our drawings. Seriously. I posted a few of mine a while back after only a few weeks of going to open figure drawing, and trust me, they were not good. It was painful to do it, but it was good for me. I think it actually does help to see your drawings scanned into the computer - it somehow makes it a more objective experience, takes you a little further away from them. Of course, I usually find my drawings suck more when I scan them in than they looked to the naked eye... hmm... probably shouldn&#039;t have mentioned that, huh?

Oh, well...  look at it this way - you&#039;ve seen both sides of the modeling stand now. How many artists have you met who have tried the other side? So, if anyone says anything about your drawing, you tell them to take their damn clothes and hop up on the platform. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, hell, it&#8217;s the process that counts. I can&#8217;t draw fer crap either, but it&#8217;s fun, and there&#8217;s only one way to get better. It&#8217;s not magic, people aren&#8217;t born with it. It can be learned, but you have to keep doing it. I do it mostly to learn to sculpt better, but I&#8217;d honesly like to be able to draw well someday.</p>
<p>I think you should post some of our drawings. Seriously. I posted a few of mine a while back after only a few weeks of going to open figure drawing, and trust me, they were not good. It was painful to do it, but it was good for me. I think it actually does help to see your drawings scanned into the computer &#8211; it somehow makes it a more objective experience, takes you a little further away from them. Of course, I usually find my drawings suck more when I scan them in than they looked to the naked eye&#8230; hmm&#8230; probably shouldn&#8217;t have mentioned that, huh?</p>
<p>Oh, well&#8230;  look at it this way &#8211; you&#8217;ve seen both sides of the modeling stand now. How many artists have you met who have tried the other side? So, if anyone says anything about your drawing, you tell them to take their damn clothes and hop up on the platform. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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